http://priceperpound.info/topic/1370/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly en-us Copyright 2011, Yuku ceco@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:59:52 GMT Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:38:02 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ http://priceperpound.info/reply/1535/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1535
I had one question about inclement weather. I submitted a memo with documentation and told them I felt the charge was justified, but I would not fight over it. They paid without complaint. I had an on-scene company rep question the equipment we rolled in with. I explained that we needed the personnel, the scene was several miles from our lot, so each man brought equipment to be sure we had what we needed. He asked about charges. I said ppp and there were no more questions. I dunno....but it works for us. Every time.
... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (MrsHook) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1535 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:38:01 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1518/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1518 Steve ]]> feeds@yuku.com (general tow) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1518 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:08:11 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1517/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1517 This is auto inserted on my invoices by my tow program and depending on if its heavyduty ,Liteduty, accident, regualer tow , impound or whatever dictates what it says  (this is heavy accident and quiet natualy the others says something different ) 
"HeavyDuty Recovery or Accident, is Listed Recovery Rate  per hour Start to Finish for each piece of equipment required to do the recovery,and includes operator ..Time on scene  is adjusted for equipment use in some cases when equipment is Idle / standby but still required (Lengthy Recoverys ) .. Accident recovery is minium 3 hours..Any additional charges such as payouts (rental,ect. ) are explained under discription/notes and listed on invoice as additional charges..Any cleanup,offloading,Towing ,ect.. is covered... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1517 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:39:00 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1516/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1516
I just want to engage some of the lurkers and "other billing proponants" in a discussion regarding billing issues.

Hourly billing be it actual time or 4 hour minimums tend to be the normal method for billing, and in some locations it is mandated by state regulations and rules.

Flat rating the jobs tend to be still happening, and I am not talking about Price Per Pound in this example. Some companies tend to look at jobs and say its worth $XXXXXXX... And that is what they write up the bill for.

We do use both billing methods and in some cases we make out like bandits, and other times we get the time clock thrown in our face... No one knows when they show up on the job exactly how long it will take to do it. Just like the above air cushion job. We were contacted and asked a price, on the phone and were told what kind of equipment was involved in the wreck, what the cargo weight was, and of course we... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1516 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:49:46 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1515/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1515 sorry dude..I actualy thought you were asking a question here.. And if my comment came across as being scarcastic it certainly wasn't my intention

{I was just putting this out there so that others can talk about billing and the jobs and help figure out if it works or not for them}  
there again.. my bad as I thought you wanted to decuss this job and not PPP vrs Hourly in general ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1515 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:08:06 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1514/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1514
Now I know that using Price Per Pound rates will at times bite you in the tail end, but at other times it works out great for you..

I was just putting this out there so that others can talk about billing and the jobs and help figure out if it works or not for them. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1514 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:00:38 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1513/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1513
lol  there is no justifcation for shootin yourself in the foot by priceing something like this flatrate..you just suck it up and try to remember dont do dat anymore  

I would assume you quoted your flatrate to the other recovery company and they are doing the invoiceing for this entire recovery.. in other words they billed their equipment out hourly and billed your flatrate as a payout , prob marking it up 25%
other company made out big time and yall got screwed..

considering the load still had to be transfered I bet that dam company did scream ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1513 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:15:13 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1512/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1512










OK now entering into more discussions on Price Per Pound billing, you have the "bullet proof" contaniner recovery job, which the company requested that it be recovered using air cushions to keep from unloading the vehicle. We were contracted by the other tow company to do the job and we supplied one truck and the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1512 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:37:58 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1511/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1511
That is what I have done and this one was 2 pages long with all the "TRAA Write up stuff" on it...

I agree also that these jobs tend to go very quick and are almost bullet proof. But there are times they eat the clock up... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1511 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:18:57 PST http://priceperpound.info/reply/1510/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly#reply-1510
Hourly on these makes more sense to me although I wish I could use the PPP price method  on some lol.. Why ?  because these type are all over the board.. on some everything clicks and it takes 45 min  and some are 30 miles away and the log loader is 2 hours away and by the time your done your away from the shop half a day.. end result is its still a simple rolled over log truck.. They range from  1500 to 2500 on avg.. have had a couple we did so fast the invoice looked like a liteduty and a few I had to take away time or leave equipment off  just to keep invoice within reason

PPP would keep the invoices more consistant  and reward the fast time but I also think they would... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) http://priceperpound.info/reply/1510 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:40:33 PST http://priceperpound.info/topic/1370/Lets-talk-basic-PPP-verses-Hourly
I know that Price Per Pound is a very viable billing method and as such it is the method which we use most


But we all know that there are jobs which it would seem to bill hourly might make more sense...

This is a recent job we did, the log company bought out a skidder and a loader to move and reload the logs so there was not a lot of clean up on our part.
Just roll it back over, and tow it to the yard kind of deal...

What you think would be proper in billing here, and explain your thoughts here as to why.








Now I have to say that if I was to bill this job out with PPP and our rates using 30,000 pounds as a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) http://priceperpound.info/topic/1370 Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:59:52 PST