Lets talk basic PPP verses Hourly

feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:59:52 PST

Ok folks, got a question for you to discuss here.

I know that Price Per Pound is a very viable billing method and as such it is the method which we use most

But we all know that there are jobs which it would seem to bill hourly might make more sense...

This is a recent job we did, the log company bought out a skidder and a loader to move and reload the logs so there was not a lot of clean up on our part.
Just roll it back over, and tow it to the yard kind of deal...

What you think would be proper in billing here, and explain your thoughts here as to why.

Now I have to say that if I was to bill this job out with PPP and our rates using 30,000 pounds as a...

Billing for cargo weight

feeds@yuku.com (Centuryonly) — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:31:21 PST

Here is something we have now run in to a few times. I'm looking for opinions.Here in Atlanta there is a company we often use for transloads and spilled cargo clean up. They have tons of equipment and resources and its really nice to just make a phone call and have it done rather than scrambling to find available bodies at 2 am. We typically like them to bill the customer separately, this is where the question comes from.

If they do the clean up or transload I still bill for the cargo weight on my recovery. My reasoning for this is that typically its reloaded on to my trailer (I dont charge additional for the use of the trailer unless it turns in to long term storage). I have equipment and operators tied up and sometimes helping with the reload / transload. I typically had to drag, push or lift the loaded overturned trailer or or spilled cargo out of the travel lanes when we first arrive.

The sub-contractor then bills the insurance company for their services. The...

PPP Justifyable ???

feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:16:49 PST

Had a Pete pullin a hopper bottom loaded with chicken feed. Ran off the road and layed over down a bad muddy ditch within site of my shop yesterday morning
Trailer was open top so it dumped approx half of the feed out...put 4 people with scoops in that sucker and in less than 20 min it was unloaded
uprighted and brought it to the yard in less than 1.5 hours......so how would one justify useing PPP on this recovery LOL owner lived close by so he was on scene ...he's taken care of the feed in the ditch so very little cleanup (a little mud on the road)
used my 30 ton and f-550 wrecker

when it came time to right the bill I said crap....we did this intirely too fast..what by all rights should have been a fairly expensive job wasn't and figureing PPP was intirely too much ... any advise for the next time other than slow down ??

PPP Breakthrough???

feeds@yuku.com (Centuryonly) — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:37:24 PST

Since the start of our TRIP Program we have developed a good working relationship with a particular independent insurance adjusting company here in Metro Atlanta. This is the understanding we operate under and it is working out very well:

They obtain the actual weight and fuel tank capacity of the tractor, they add 250 lbs for personal items in the truck and add the weight of 3/4 capacity of diesel.
They obtain the actual weight of the trailer.
They obtain the actual weight of the load.

In return we provide them with a detailed checklist of each thing we charge for and how much that particular item costs. Then we write the invoice per the weights they provide. They divide the charges per the weights and divvy up those charges to each insuring party. THEN THEY GET US PAID QUICKLY!!!

In my opinion this is how things should work. Both of us act in good faith and get things handled. If every wrecker service and insurance company could manage to...

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:47:12 PST

(GUESS WHICH BILL WILL GET CONTESTED IN THIS ONE)

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

Gas spilled on Interstate 395 April 3

By DON BOND

For The Norwich Bulletin

Posted Apr 12, 2009 @ 11:27 PM

Plainfield, Conn. -

The company that owns the gasoline tanker truck that crashed on Interstate 395 April 3, closing the highway for more than 15 hours, likely faces a steep bill.

"Counting the loss of my truck, the cost...

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:47:10 PST

(GUESS WHICH BILL WILL GET CONTESTED IN THIS ONE)

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

Gas spilled on Interstate 395 April 3

By DON BOND

For The Norwich Bulletin

Posted Apr 12, 2009 @ 11:27 PM

Plainfield, Conn. -

Billing scenario

feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:31:21 PST

gona try to relate a recovery we did
call came it at 11:15 am and by 11:30 we were in route with everything I thought we needed... took my Heavy, my med duty wrecker, rollback, frontend loader, tractor with lowboy..accident happened at approx 7:am

04 pete bobtruck tanker fully loaded half and half with dsl and gas had hit ice on a bridge..went out of control,,climbed the rail ,flipped over onto its side and came to rest on top of a small car that had done the same thing...burst into flames...the fire dept had to simply let it burn itself out

ok we were dispatched at 11:15 and inroute at 11:30....traffic had already backed up 5 miles long and was at a stand still..we were told to hang back and wait till they wanted us to come up...complete road was blocked....at approx 12:30 we were told to come up...fire was out
first thing we did was carefully pull the little car out from under the mess and then were held up for coraner to extract body...

simple question about billing

feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:19:11 PST

ok so far i've only got a few Heavy recoverys under my belt...Did a tanker recovery a few days back...complete burn job and messy as hell..
When writeing the bill the question came up about the cleanup so I called a few People I know and didn't get a stright answer out of any of them LOL heres the question...you have all this equipment out there drawing so much per hr with operator included...heavy wrecker, forklift, frontend loader, rollback, dump truck, extra tractor with lowboy, ect... now then all this equipment is drawing its rate as long as it takes to get the job done...so...do you charge a cleanup fee ??
in liteduty we always charged pretty much flatrate itimized or rather so much for each service done so a cleanup fee was included on the bill...now that i'm into heavy i've switched all Lite and heavy to Hourly and haveing a hard time justfiying this charge ...Hows about someone enlighten me on this

Explosion sends trailer half a mile (Wyoming)

feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:27:56 PST

Anyone up for this recovery. Now from the picture here, it would be upright tractor, first trailer, and the pup trailer would be overturned.. How would you handle this job and bill it out ???

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Explosion sends trailer half a mile

A tanker carrying more than 12,500 gallons of butane burns along Interstate 25 east of Casper on Tuesday afternoon, as photographed by a passing motorist. A pup trailer, which was being pulled by the tanker, exploded, sending a fireball estimated at several hundred yards in diameter into the air and the pup trailer one-half mile from the site of the accident. No one was injured in either the wreck or the explosion. (Raenell Edsall, Courtesy)

By CHRISTINE ROBINSON
Star-Tribune staff writer
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:00 PM MST

An explosion east of Casper launched a pup trailer full of butane...

Need info

feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:28:38 PST

Richard how do I upload a file to the internet so someone can download it ?? I have threw togeather a PPP calculater you and several others can use ...its in 2003 excel format so if you dont have excel it wont work .. however .I also have it compiled into an exe file that anyone can use but so far its not quiet right you can change all prices and whatever but it wont save changes so when you open it back up its right back where it was orginaly ...the excel is changeable and saves ...simply part of my new program i'm makeing but thought you mite use this part now

the exe thingy is made useing your latest prices though so it may be ok for now

hummmmmm didn't think of it before but I suppose I could simply email to anyone that wants it .....

my first heavy recovery

feeds@yuku.com (Jim Lunsford) — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:52:42 PST

finialy after 5 months haveing my heavy I got a recovery ...pretty simple but none the less
now then if you guys will take a look at my bill and tell me if its about right....too high ?? or what
haven't found out yet if this owner has full ins yet but thinking if libility only this will be the perfet one to try to collect on it considering the damage it caused to the light pole and lines...took out the intire towns elect so there was quiet a bit of property damage that couldn't be repaired until vehicals were recovered
had to tow the truck and trailer approx 30 miles and wasn't tracking for %%@% ..my truck on the center line and trailer on the fog line ...figured I would take out a few mailboxes but didn't

Oct 13, 2008 - 04:05:17 CDT

It made the news when a truck carrying an unarmed missile booster overturned in northwestern North Dakota. Actually, everyone was happy about the "unarmed" part. And people figured there would be an investigation, and someone would be held accountable for the accident. But who would have thought it would cost $5.6 million to recover the missile and truck.

For comparison:The Burleigh County Commission recently gave the go ahead for $5.5 million in bond to finance an indoor swimming facility at Bismarck State College property. Mandan is making improvements in its water treatment plan for $4.5 million and adding a southside water reservoir for $8.6 million. Oil industry people put the price tag for drilling a Bakken oil well in the Williston Basin at $5 million. The North Dakota Legislature authorized a $5.7 million overhaul of its computers system (well this last one...

Quick Clearance programs and PPP

feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:11:36 PST

Do any of you who are part of the "quick clearance programs" have issues with the rates you get to charge (are you regulated) so that it actually is less than it would normally be for doing the recoveries if you were not forced to complete the job in 90 minutes...

If so, do you think that PPP would be a practical system to use for billing under TRIP or RISC programs...

Can you use PPP ???

Are you having trouble getting paid?

feeds@yuku.com (HvywreckerW900) — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:35:19 PST

Do you seem to have trouble getting paid for your recoveries? Do you keep hearing the same things over and over? Too much money, I dont understand my bill? Well maybe we can help you here. Post your issues here to see if we here @ PPP HD Billing can help you resolve your issues.

Jr

rates question

feeds@yuku.com (ric) — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:45:12 PST

Hello to all. I have been in trucking for quite some time but new to towing.
I know that alot of times prices are set by supply and demand and geographics but I am still trying to understand the billing side.
I would like to know how much you guys look to get when you bill by mile ? I would love for everything to be port to port but I notice alot of people get scared when you tell them that. Also I know alot of guys bill per mile after a certain mileage.
I have about 4 guys real close to me that have zack lifts and pull for about $1.50 a mile round trip. Does this seem right?
Seems low to me but again I am new and trying to learn.
Ricardo

How do you write a bill?

feeds@yuku.com (HvywreckerW900) — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 03:47:28 PST

How do you write a heavy duty towing or recovery bill. Are your customers impressed with the neatness of your billing? These are just some questions that you have to ask yourself when you are writing a bill for a customer. On all heavy duty wrecks are typed out on the computer with our company letter head at the top. First thing with doing bills in this manor is they are simply legable. It can be a pain when the customer can not read what is written for them. And may cause them to have concerns when paying said bill. Take a close look at a bill the next time you hand it to a customer or insurance company and ask yourself is this a bill I would pay?

Jr

Basic billing information

feeds@yuku.com (ibflat2) — Sat, 27 May 2006 23:29:30 PST

Here is a place to discuss the PPP billing method which was created by Stormin Norman Horton ( Ozark Alabama )...

The basic premise of the system was that given industry progression to Air Cushions recovery systems, Hydraulic recovery units, and Rotating recovery units, you were doing the job faster and easier, and when billing by the hour you were cutting your revenue with the increased expenses for modern equipment..

Lets see what happens and lets talk about the method.

"Don't waste time calculating your chances of success
and failure. Just fix your aim and begin" ----- Guan Yin Tzu

Heavy duty wrecks and billing

Lets talk basic PPP verses Hourly

Billing for cargo weight

PPP Justifyable ???

PPP Breakthrough???

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

Gas spilled on Interstate 395 April 3

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

Truck company faces big bill for Plainfield crash

Gas spilled on Interstate 395 April 3

Billing scenario

simple question about billing

Explosion sends trailer half a mile (Wyoming)

Need info

my first heavy recovery

Quick Clearance programs and PPP

Are you having trouble getting paid?

rates question

How do you write a bill?

Basic billing information